Hi folks, just dropped in over Ralph`s page. To be on the realistic side, I am afraid we won`t be seeing the Dutch Connie flying again (european bureaucracy/insurance fees etc.) - you just need the type of money which Lufthansa is just spending and the expertise to produce the tons of paperwork necessary to convince the FAA that flying round engines is safe and, of couse, recreating a "new" Starliner. This forum was long overdue , all the best for the future!
Post by Chris Trott on Nov 25, 2011 18:25:17 GMT -5
You mean the European JAA & UK CAA. The FAA has proven time and again to be one of the few reasonable organizations when it comes to operating vintage aircraft. That's one of the reasons so many European warbirds are still US-registered, however the Europeans are doing everything they can to make it where it doesn't matter where you register the aircraft, you have to meet their, many times unreasonable and unrealistic requirements.
My recollection regarding the Dutch Connie is that she was on the eve of her first flight and going to be at I think it was the Waddington Airshow in the UK when the BOD of the Aviodrome, dominated by KLM/Air France, nixed the entire shebang.
She was all insured and airworthy and with a certified crew, but the Aviodrome Board administered the kibosh at the last minute.
Since then, about two plus years ago, there seems to be an information blackout, and I don't know if they're even doing engine runs any longer!
Posted last night on the C-P Yahoos Group by Rudd Leeuw re the Dutch Aviodrome. Ralph
hello, the Aviation Theme Park, situated since 2003 at Lelystad, Netherlands have requested bankruptcy proceedings last thursday. About a year ago the Aviodrome and DDA Airlines merged, on KLM's instigation I think. I voiced my doubts here when the new manager made his budget public, just wasn't realistic. The original director, Arno van der Holst, was replaced by someone from KLM or who had a KLM career; he implemented changes and a budget which unfortunately did not bear fruit. I did not feel at home anymore with the new organisation and cancelled my membership. Haven't talked to anyone recently within the museum, but wish them all the best. This mess won't increase the chances of getting the Lockheed Constellation airborne (unless it will be sold for that purpose). A search is out for new investors, hope they succeed as the Aviodrome is something to treasure and preserve. Ruud
Three years ago I was at Lelystad and very impressed with their programme of engine runs. The next best thing to flying . What a crying shame , if this really will be all finished.If it is going to be sold, perhaps Mr Gomez and his lot can strike another deal with Breitling. Imagine , a Connie formation!
Visited the Aviodrome a few years ago for a trip on the Dutch Catalina (which has just returned there after a year grounded in Germany) and had a great time . It will be a crying shane if the museum has to close.
The Aviodrome has been rescued for the upcoming ten years by the Libéma Group. It will re-open on April 28, 2012 (= upcoming Saturday). The new owners will keep the entire collection intact, keep all the personnel too. The theme park will be made a bit more "public-friendly, so to speak. Here is a link to their renewed site aviodrome.nl/ I´m afraid the site is only in Dutch, but the place is international of course.
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